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		<title>By: K Ubuntu or death of distribution &#124; Windows pentru începători</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Ubuntu or death of distribution &#124; Windows pentru începători</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] său, iar situația se înrăutățește pe zi ce trece. Ca un mare fan al lui Kubuntu, Jeremy LaCroixce explică în blogul său, părerile de rău ale lui, față de Kubuntu, trăind cu speranța că [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] său, iar situația se înrăutățește pe zi ce trece. Ca un mare fan al lui Kubuntu, Jeremy LaCroixce explică în blogul său, părerile de rău ale lui, față de Kubuntu, trăind cu speranța că [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032&#038;cpage=2#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not quite it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not quite it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032&#038;cpage=2#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which points did I miss? I think I pretty much covered at least most of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which points did I miss? I think I pretty much covered at least most of it.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exactly... people should join kubuntu, kde, or an upstream project and start submitting patches.... this is linux, not some &quot;waiter! there&#039;s a fly in my soup - i want a refund&quot; comedy routine.

... and is the OP seriously asking for somebody to train him to code, or did I incorrectly translate!?  Buy a book and learn, or pay somebody to fix the code you care about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly&#8230; people should join kubuntu, kde, or an upstream project and start submitting patches&#8230;. this is linux, not some &#8220;waiter! there&#8217;s a fly in my soup &#8211; i want a refund&#8221; comedy routine.</p>
<p>&#8230; and is the OP seriously asking for somebody to train him to code, or did I incorrectly translate!?  Buy a book and learn, or pay somebody to fix the code you care about.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032&#038;cpage=2#comment-828</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow... i think you have completely missed the point(s)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; i think you have completely missed the point(s)</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas P C</title>
		<link>http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032&#038;cpage=2#comment-826</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas P C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;KDE doesn’t have a lot going for it and that’s in any distro.&lt;/cite&gt; 
It&#039;s hard to agree with this. 
If you&#039;ve ever read the recent KDE changelogs, you&#039;ll see the great deal of effort and all the potential the developers are packing into KDE. 
But Kubuntu doesn&#039;t get it. Kubuntu refuses to harness that potential. Kubuntu is really the &quot;unwanted, rejected stepchild of Canonical&quot;.
And all we Kubuntu fans (which obviously you aren&#039;t) suffer for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>KDE doesn’t have a lot going for it and that’s in any distro.</cite><br />
It&#8217;s hard to agree with this.<br />
If you&#8217;ve ever read the recent KDE changelogs, you&#8217;ll see the great deal of effort and all the potential the developers are packing into KDE.<br />
But Kubuntu doesn&#8217;t get it. Kubuntu refuses to harness that potential. Kubuntu is really the &#8220;unwanted, rejected stepchild of Canonical&#8221;.<br />
And all we Kubuntu fans (which obviously you aren&#8217;t) suffer for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032&#038;cpage=2#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matt, thanks for the comment. I&#039;ll try to respond to everything but please excuse me if I miss an important point.

First of all, I&#039;m already involved in Kubuntu. Bug testing is the area in which I help out. I&#039;m sure you already knew that, because you&#039;ve probably already looked at my profile before replying. I&#039;m sure you already seen one of my replies in this same article to Jonathan Riddell, where I told him that I would be more than happy to develop some code if I was trained on how. Until then, I&#039;ll continue to write articles to raise awareness on the weak points of different projects and where they can improve. That too, is getting involved.

Kubuntu not having LTS support was a dissapointment for very obvious reasons. First, the LTS status was removed at a time where Kubuntu was just starting to get criticized because of not having as many features as Ubuntu. That was the worst possible time to remove such a status from Kubuntu. It certainly didn&#039;t help the perception at all. Second, it was stated that the purpose of removing LTS from Kubuntu 8.04 was to focus on KDE 4.x. This made me (and I&#039;m sure others) think that would mean we would get an awesome KDE 4.0 implementation. The implementation we received was garbage, completely vanilla and unpolished, and it actually had more bugs (that I&#039;ve reported directly to launchpad before release) than KDE 4.0 on any other distro. Finally, for someone that has been following Kubuntu and using it since its inception, it&#039;s a huge dissapointment to see that (yet again) your favorite distro was snubbed for it&#039;s more popular brother again. The LTS status doesn&#039;t affect me personally in the area of corporate support, it&#039;s kind of like your favorite players in a sports team not being picked for the draft that year. It&#039;s not going to kill you, but it is REALLY dissapointing.

I will definitely stop using the term &quot;step child&quot; to describe Kubuntu when Kubuntu stops earning that title. I don&#039;t want to promote a view of Kubuntu getting less love either, but when it is &lt;strong&gt;actually getting less love&lt;/strong&gt; that&#039;s hard not to do. Besides, I&#039;m not really promoting a view as much as I am stating facts. Canonical may have given birth to Kubuntu, but giving birth to something and raising it are two completely different things. 

Thanks again for the reply, and I hope my response sheds some light on my views that you may have been confused about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt, thanks for the comment. I&#8217;ll try to respond to everything but please excuse me if I miss an important point.</p>
<p>First of all, I&#8217;m already involved in Kubuntu. Bug testing is the area in which I help out. I&#8217;m sure you already knew that, because you&#8217;ve probably already looked at my profile before replying. I&#8217;m sure you already seen one of my replies in this same article to Jonathan Riddell, where I told him that I would be more than happy to develop some code if I was trained on how. Until then, I&#8217;ll continue to write articles to raise awareness on the weak points of different projects and where they can improve. That too, is getting involved.</p>
<p>Kubuntu not having LTS support was a dissapointment for very obvious reasons. First, the LTS status was removed at a time where Kubuntu was just starting to get criticized because of not having as many features as Ubuntu. That was the worst possible time to remove such a status from Kubuntu. It certainly didn&#8217;t help the perception at all. Second, it was stated that the purpose of removing LTS from Kubuntu 8.04 was to focus on KDE 4.x. This made me (and I&#8217;m sure others) think that would mean we would get an awesome KDE 4.0 implementation. The implementation we received was garbage, completely vanilla and unpolished, and it actually had more bugs (that I&#8217;ve reported directly to launchpad before release) than KDE 4.0 on any other distro. Finally, for someone that has been following Kubuntu and using it since its inception, it&#8217;s a huge dissapointment to see that (yet again) your favorite distro was snubbed for it&#8217;s more popular brother again. The LTS status doesn&#8217;t affect me personally in the area of corporate support, it&#8217;s kind of like your favorite players in a sports team not being picked for the draft that year. It&#8217;s not going to kill you, but it is REALLY dissapointing.</p>
<p>I will definitely stop using the term &#8220;step child&#8221; to describe Kubuntu when Kubuntu stops earning that title. I don&#8217;t want to promote a view of Kubuntu getting less love either, but when it is <strong>actually getting less love</strong> that&#8217;s hard not to do. Besides, I&#8217;m not really promoting a view as much as I am stating facts. Canonical may have given birth to Kubuntu, but giving birth to something and raising it are two completely different things. </p>
<p>Thanks again for the reply, and I hope my response sheds some light on my views that you may have been confused about.</p>
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		<title>By: sifuh</title>
		<link>http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032&#038;cpage=2#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>sifuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;wireless broken in 9.04

That is why branding and PR is not everything. But these two things are all that Ubuntu can reasonably get done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;wireless broken in 9.04</p>
<p>That is why branding and PR is not everything. But these two things are all that Ubuntu can reasonably get done.</p>
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		<title>By: RTFM! &#187; Ist Kubuntu in einer Abwärtsspirale gefangen?</title>
		<link>http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032&#038;cpage=2#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>RTFM! &#187; Ist Kubuntu in einer Abwärtsspirale gefangen?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeremy LaCroix auf IT News Today. Aus seiner Sicht ist Kubuntu f&#252;r Canonical nur ein Stiefkind - Ubuntu ist Canonicals [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeremy LaCroix auf IT News Today. Aus seiner Sicht ist Kubuntu f&uuml;r Canonical nur ein Stiefkind &#8211; Ubuntu ist Canonicals [...]</p>
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